"Boxer_4" (Boxer_4)
01/24/2014 at 12:43 • Filed to: None
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"Boxer_4" (Boxer_4)
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... then I saw it had the DCT; enthusiasm killed. I didn't give it another look after that.
It did make me appreciate the e39 M5 I spent last weekend in even more. That's something positive about this M5, right?
For Sweden
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 12:47 |
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It's an ///M5; it's all positive.
Textured Soy Protein
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 12:48 |
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I guess you'd be similarly disappointed with my 135is DCT. But the DCT is one of the main reasons I got my car. I drove nothing but stick shift for 12 years before getting it.
William Byrd
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 12:51 |
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That's cold.
Looking.
rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 12:53 |
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As much as a like manual, I don't fault anyone who's enough of a car person to drive a phenomenal performance sedan like an M5, even with DCT. I wouldn't have one myself, but if BMW were limited to selling M5s to people who like manuals, we might not get them at all.
That said, I hate performance oriented cars that only offer 2 pedal options (I am looking hard at you, Ferrari an Maserati, you dream-killers).
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Boxer_4
> Textured Soy Protein
01/24/2014 at 12:56 |
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Not exactly. I get that some people prefer the DCT, and it does it's job very well. A DCT is perfectly fine as an option on most cars. However, after getting an opportunity to experience and drive an M5 with a 6-speed, it just seems wrong to get an M5 without a stick.
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Boxer_4
> William Byrd
01/24/2014 at 12:58 |
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It was 2 F this morning. This Maserati looked a bit cold, too.
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Boxer_4
> rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S
01/24/2014 at 13:09 |
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The M5 was almost a 2 pedal only vehicle. The only reason the last two generations of M5s were/are available with manuals was because of complaints from America.
I understand that DCTs have a place, and a good option. However, I will always respect the driver with the manual more than the one without.
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Boxer_4
> For Sweden
01/24/2014 at 13:11 |
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Some M5s are more "all positive" than others.
BKRM3
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 13:16 |
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I love my 6MT more than anything in my M3, and I loved the 6MT in my 335 before that. I would never trade that third pedal for a DCT in a 3 series or smaller car.
HOWEVER - the F10 M5 is big. Not just big, huge. There's something about a car that size that makes me say to myself "Ok, buddy, this car isn't light, isn't nimble, isn't ever going to be a race car...it's a massive sedan with a lot of muscle. What are you gaining by wanting to shift an F10 M5 yourself? Anything, Joey Hand? No? I didn't think so." ...and then I'd have it in DCT, which is a fantastic gearbox.
Parth985
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 13:22 |
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I have and e39 m5 and in the snow it's super fun
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Parth985
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 13:22 |
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I have and e39 m5 and in the snow it's super fun
spanfucker retire bitch
> Boxer_4
01/24/2014 at 13:25 |
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I too lose all interest in a vehicle that has a superior, modern, ridiculously fast shifting transmission.
Not.
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Boxer_4
> spanfucker retire bitch
01/24/2014 at 14:46 |
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I like to feel like I accomplished something when driving a performance vehicle. Pushing buttons doesn't really do it for me.
Sinanigans
> BKRM3
01/24/2014 at 15:02 |
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I have a special place in my heart for big fast manual sedans...
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BKRM3
> Sinanigans
01/24/2014 at 15:07 |
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If you mean the E39 M5 or its ilk (including many previous Alpina iterations), I agree completely. The E60 is when it went over the edge for me, and, even though I absolutely love the E60 M5, I understand why it was designed for the SMG II gearbox. The new cars, whether we like it or not, are an extension of that engineering approach. As you know, if the US market didn't still clamor for a 6MT option in the bigger M cars, it wouldn't exist.
I'm not saying my own thoughts are well sorted out on this point. I HATE that the new GT3 is PDK-only...but if the M5 in its current size went that way, it wouldn't bother me one bit.